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-====== Running a 2G DSM ECU in an EVO8 ====== 
-This used to be a popular swap for a while back when the EVOs were new.  The interest seemed to die down a bit as guys started playing around with ECUFlash and EVOScan. ​ But for some reason, we're getting more and more requests for this information lately. 
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-So I thought I'd put this page up to help guys get the ball rolling. 
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-===== Wiring swaps ===== 
-Obviously, you need to swap a few wires around on the ECU harness. ​ This is the list of the main things that need to be re-ordered. 
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-**Evo harness** -> 95 ECU 
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-**22** -> 8 Swaps Fuel pump relay and AC relay control \\  
-**8** -> 22 
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-**10** -> 23 Inverts coil control for proper firing order \\  
-**23** -> 10 
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-**32** -> 20 Moves condensor fan control to ECU \\  
-**34** -> 21 
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-**40** -> 13 Moves Cam and Crank sensor Ground supply 
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-**43** -> 91 EVO clutch wire to feed NLTS 
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-58 JUMPER TO 89 Do not swap, splice 89 (crank signal) to 58 (tach input) for proper tachometer operation. 
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-56 Cut this wire, run a wire from 56 at the 95 ECU to pin 1 at the data link connector. Cut pin 1 wire at DLC, do not splice this in. 
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-==== Patch harness ==== 
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-By all means, use a patch harness when doing the swaps mentioned above. ​ It's SOOO much easier to do this while working at a table inside the house/​garage than it is under the dash on your back.  It's a little pricey, but well worth it.  Some sample shops are below. ​ I'm sure there are plenty of others. 
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-[[http://​www.machevo.com/​cocoecupaha.html|Mach V patch harness]] \\  
-[[https://​www.lancershop.com/​customer/​product.php?​productid=260|Lancer Shop]] \\  
-[[http://​www.maperformance.com/​aem-ecu-patch-extension-harness-mitsubishi-evo-8-30-2983.html|Modern Automotive Performance]] 
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-===== Known issues and work arounds ===== 
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-==== Fan control ==== 
-Main Radiator Fan is always on when the key is on.  The EVO setup uses PWM logic to control the fans where as the 2G DSM just has a simple on/off switch. ​ I'm 100% sure there is a way to swap a few wires at the EVO fan controller harness and get this working properly. ​ If/when we dig this information up, I'll post it here. 
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-There is one thread on our forums with a breakdown on one approach to this. 
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-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​forums/​showthread.php?​p=68522|2G ECU in an EVO8 fan control]] 
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-If you read through that, you'll see it wasn't a perfect solution, but certainly better than just running the fans all the time I suppose. 
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-I'll attach a copy of the post below for reference. 
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-  I've attached the schematic that Justin sent me. I added the pt# for the style diode to use  
-  since that info had been left out. Thanks to Tom and Dave for suggesting what diodes to use. 
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-  edit: btw I found the polarity of the fan to be blue + and black - I've learned that the fan  
-  bypass isn't a perfect fix. I made a change to the schematic because having the relay'​s pin  
-  86 wired directly to the battery allows the HVAC fan to be operational regardless if the key  
-  is in the ignition or not. I don't know why this is unfornutely and maybe someone else with  
-  better knowledge of the circuitry can chime in. What I did to fix this was take the wire from  
-  pin 86 and move it from the battery to a switched +12v connection. The fan controller mounted ​ 
-  to the front of the rad fan has a switched power lead that is only active when the car is on.  
-  So thats where I spliced in for an ign. switched 12v source. Now with it wired like this,  
-  the rad fan and HVAC fan work as they should but for some reason the A/C fan will cycle on  
-  for aprox 3 secs and then shut off everytime the key is turned off. So its still not a perfect 
-  fix but at least now the rad fan works when it should and the HVAC fan as well.  
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-The attachments referred to above are provided here: 
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-{{http://​www.ecmtuning.com/​wiki/​_media/​fanmod.jpg?​200x134}} 
-{{http://​www.ecmtuning.com/​wiki/​_media/​a-29_-_fan_connector.jpg?​200x211}} 
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-==== Idle control ==== 
-The EVO ISC motor must provide more airflow per "​step"​ because default operation with a 2G DSM ECU results in idle surges as the car starts to move.  You can disable this using the patch listed at the bottom of this page. 
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-[[http://​www.ecmtuning.com/​wiki/​direct_access_changes|Custom Direct Access Files]] 
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-==== Injector scaling and default timing/fuel maps ==== 
-The stock 2G DSM maps were only calibrated by Mitsubishi up to about 14-15psi. ​ The stock EVO8 maps were calibrated a lot further out and with a nicer "​shape"​ to them.  We provide full details on how to configure ECMLink for EVO8 operation here, including new timing and fuel maps copied directly from the EVO8 ECU. 
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-[[evo8v3settings|EVO8 V3 Config Settings]] 
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-==== Idle switch and TPS ==== 
-You must simulate the idle switch via DSMlink since the Evo does not use an idle switch. ​ This is trivial to do on the ECU Config->​RPM/​TPS tab.  You will also want to [[v3tpsadj|calibrate the TPS]] too.  ​ 
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-===== References ===== 
-The following files will be most useful to someone looking to confirm the information above or to find a new way to approach some of the issues. 
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-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​images/​forums/​rreevo8pinout.pdf|EVO8 pin out]] \\  
-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​images/​forums/​2GECUPinout.pdf|2G DSM pin out]] \\  
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-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​images/​forums/​evo8mfi.pdf|EVO8 MFI schematic]] \\  
-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​images/​forums/​2GECUMFI.pdf|2G MFI schematic]] \\  
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-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​images/​forums/​evo8cooling.pdf|EVO8 cooling schematic]] \\  
-[[http://​www.dsmlink.com/​images/​forums/​2gcooling.pdf|2G DSM cooling schematic]] \\  
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